Curse

HayesA · Jul 24, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Don't feel bad, because i've barely touched Cantha. Though, I have protector of Tyria; which I completed some time last month, and I just completed protector of elona just the other day. Personally, I think i'm pretty behind since that there seem to be a couple of folks who have completed it all in NM & HM. Which i think is more of a daunting task.

You are a little behind, but you'll cetch up.

oceanicdemigod · Jul 24, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Well I have been playing GW since beta december 2004. I have on average 16-17 characters on my main account. I sometimes remake a couple.

Why...do quests?

In GW:EN...yes, I will FINALLY do quests because they are finally giving motivation to do so....SKILL REWARDS....reputation to gain new skills etc.

Otherwise...why in the world would I want to do a quest? Gain XP? XP is pointless. With millions of XP with HUNDREDS of skill points I"ll never use...XP IS TOTALLY WORTHLESS! Gold? Gold Rewards from quests are laughable as well. I'll just go solo farm (even WITH Loot Scaling i get more in a couple minutes than the time it would take to do a quest).

I ONLY Quest to help get a Non-Level 20...TO...level 20. ONCE they hit Level 20 - All questing halts.

Prophecies was nice as it has Skill quests. Factions and Nightfall lack this. So taking my time with totally valueless quests is a waste of time when I can just get further in the game. Find those Elite Armor craftors and work on making my characters look pretty

I do plan to halt all progression to become addicted to Polymock though

GW:EN offers motivation and incentive to gain the reputation to gain PvE skills...so I'll take my time there.

So yeah, my necro beat Factions 3 days after release and beat Nightfall 2 days after release. It was great to have primeval armor before anyone else and I got to show it off to people so they would know if they liked it or not.

Once I beat the campaign, the only incentive currently to advance is to get specific armor crafters. Otherwise, I wont bother advancing much in a particular campaign. Though, all my characters have Ascalon so I can go Dance in Piken Square

Why do missions repeatedly...they just give more useless xp and a dribble of gold. Unless they are needed to access an armor crafter...I avoid everything as much as possible.

But thats how I play..and thats how I enjoy to play. But regardless of how one likes to play...XP...IS...useless with so many spare hundreds of skill points. I'd like to see someone argue that point. ^_^

prism2525 · Jul 24, 2007, 08:58 PM // 20:58

I only finished all 3 games with my main (ele).

I would build my other chars (atm I'm doing my sin out of boredom) but building my primary's titles are a priority to me right now (see GW2).

Darksun · Jul 24, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

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Originally Posted by samcobra

guild wars is dead due to the pvp scene being dead. No game lives by pvers because honestly, there isn't as much interpersonal interaction in pve as there is pvp. Since the pvp is dying/dead, people realize this game is also dying.

yeah, uh huh. No.

GW has been "dying" (according to anyone who doesn't get their way) from the early days when people started to pull a chicken little.

Amazingly the # of players & sales keep going up. Can we stop with the phantom "death" of Guild Wars.

Larqh · Jul 24, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Mask and Raven, I'll definitely add you guys! At the moment, Larqh Muun is the only one who needs the quests right now. I have another Guildie who needs them as well, so perhaps we can tag him too. I'll keep my out for ya!

As for PVP, I've never touched it except for the little deal before going post. I'm no good at it. PVE is what attracts me to GW. Though, admittedly, it's more fun when you have a good team of PCs. I love to make Tomb runs and find good groups to interact with from time to time.

I guess it's as some others pointed out. It's all in how you play.

Fitz Rinley · Jul 24, 2007, 11:41 PM // 23:41

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Those are the two camps. I find it amusing when people that choose the former path exclaim "there's nothing to do!".

I am definitely a "take it slow" guy, and I try to do every quest available before I move on to the next area, even on my 2nd and 3rd characters.

For my four characters, each one has completed only two campaigns. I'm trying to make my Ritualist the first one to complete the trifecta before GW:EN is released...not sure if I'll make it though (and I have over a month to complete Nightfall with her!!!!).

I have 10 Characters. They are all related somehow in a sub-story. Five of them are immediate family. I don't mind pushing charcters through to upper levels. I beat Prophecies a long time ago on my first set of characters. A lot of what I have now are remakes. And I doubt any of them are ready for GW: EN when it comes out. One character has at least another 8 to 12 months in Pre before he can even leave and start the regular campaigns. So, I guess that puts me in the slow category.

Thunder79 · Jul 25, 2007, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by Larqh

Okay, I've been playing Guild Wars for about a year and a half now and only just recently had a character complete the Prophecies campaign. I've not done much with Factions and don't even have Nightfall as of yet. I love playing the game, but I'm astounded when I hear about people who have already beaten all 3 campaigns with however many characters they have, which is usually several.

It's just odd, so many people are saying that GW will be dead before GW2, possibly dead already. But I still have so much of Guild Wars to enjoy yet.

I don't understand. How do you guys go through it so quick? And more importantly, why?

*throws peanuts to the gallery*

I was in your position and I still am somewhat...

Just after Factions and about a year after I started playing the game (in may of 2005)...I saw myself in very much the same position...I hadn't completed either of the campaigns at that point. I then worked one of mine through Prophecies and beat it. I took several characters through Factions. When nightfall came out I took my dervish through immediately and beat it...since then I've taken a couple other characters through.

Now I'm looking at my titles...I see myself lagging a bit behind some people...I only just finished Legendary Survivor for the first time this weekend. I haven't yet gotten Kind of a Big Deal on any of my characters....I've gotten protector in each of the campaigns at least once. Factions is the only one I've gotten it more than once. I haven't finished vanquishing any of the campaigns. I haven't gotten grandmaster cartographer in any of the campaigns.

I play the game at my own pace...like you I'm a casual gamer. Enjoy the game...don't let others accomplishments drive you to ruin the fun you have in the game.

Now that said...I do have my own goals...specifically my goals are oriented towards the Hall of Monuments for GW:EN...I'm working on finishing the big titles on at least one character...and now that I've gotten Legendary Survivor out way...I can do that with that character...who was the first character I ever created.

Relambrien · Jul 25, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by samcobra

guild wars is dead due to the pvp scene being dead. No game lives by pvers because honestly, there isn't as much interpersonal interaction in pve as there is pvp. Since the pvp is dying/dead, people realize this game is also dying.

Please don't turn this into another PvP vs PvE thread.

LifeInfusion · Jul 25, 2007, 01:13 AM // 01:13

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Originally Posted by oceanicdemigod

Why...do quests?

Because otherwise you make the Quest maker sad and also other people that worked on quests. This means:
-Linsey Murdock (quest maker)
- Curtis Johnson (game continuity)
- possibly the writers
- possibly the game designers
- possibly the programmers (mainly content programmers)

Also, many of the quests are quite humorous if you read the dialogue. "Goren's Stuff", "Drakes on a Plain", "More Cowbell", among others.

Missions are generally more immersive than quests because they can afford to spend more time making them. However, players skipping out on the quests means a lot of the storyline and lore is not understood.

Omniclasm · Jul 25, 2007, 01:16 AM // 01:16

When a new campaign comes out, it is sort of a great feeling to rush ahead of most people. Guides for the missions aren't on wiki, all of the skill locations aren't on wiki. Everything is new to everyone, and pushing ahead is sort of like exploring where few have explored. I get a thrill out of it. My other characters, I don't really rush through the game. Could I finish it in a day or two? Yes, and I have done. After the first thrill of exploring the place though, nothing is as exciting. If I took my time and enjoyed all of the quests and such, I would miss out on this initial thrill. I go for the big thrill rather than the small thrill stretched out over weeks.

I'm tired, and if any of this makes sense, you owe me a cookie.

Moiax · Jul 25, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

My roommate picked up Guild Wars a little after Factions came out, I had had it since release. I beat prophecies 1 day before he did, and he took his time. I have no idea why it took me so long, but I enjoyed all the other stuff along the way, and didn't feel like completing the last 2 missions until he was there too.

Roo Ella · Jul 25, 2007, 04:18 AM // 04:18

I have been playing just on 2 years ( 1 month to go actually)
and haven't even finished prophecies O.o
I take my time look at everything there IS so much graphic stuff to see you miss it
if you race through it
like flies in swarms in swamps spiders in trees little crabs on the beach ect ect ect it's all the detail
to me that makes the game not just missions and quests.
so I think NO I know I am slow but I get to see everything that the programmers put there for us to see if
we take the time.

undeadgun · Jul 25, 2007, 04:34 AM // 04:34

i ve been playing for 2 years now, and i only have 3 chars out 11 have beaten the prophecies. imo prophecies is a much more enjoyable campain than the other 2. skill rewards, a interesting story line, and traditional envoriments.
i have my all 11 PvE char beaten faction, 9 beaten NF, but really cant afford time to beat prophecies again on any of those chars, if u play prophecies, u just got to play it seriouse, it is a good campain, enjoy it OP, i hope u see the ending movie soon

Larqh · Jul 25, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

*offers cookie to Omniclasm* Yes, that did actually make sense.

There's an ending movie??? I didn't know about that. Is it like after you beat the titans or something? Still gotta get the rest of those buggers...

GodofAcid · Jul 25, 2007, 05:18 AM // 05:18

I wasn't suggesting that you shouldn't do what you enjoy, that's just why most people don't spend a long time on campaigns.

strcpy · Jul 25, 2007, 05:45 AM // 05:45

I don't really find that I rush through the game. For Nightfall I beat it in about two weeks, I was at the last mission in less than a week and then went back and completed quite a few quests. I didn't rush, or at least I was focused on enjoying the game and it just happened to take a short while. She completed Prophecies and factions both together in under a week once I started on them. Mostly it was because I had played enough that I rarely died and had a large collection of decent builds, already had all the gold I needed, and had enough unlocks/items that the heroes didn't take any work.

However, for other characters it isn't necessarily the same (well, I use the same play style - just go along and how long it takes is how long it takes). I started about 2 months after release and it wasn't until after the release of Nightfall that I finally bothered to beat Hell's Precipice with the above mentioned Dervish. She is *still* the only one to have done it and I have six or so characters at that point right now(two getting ready for their second birthday this month), that's not counting ones I have deleted. Not that it is hard - my warrior capped hundred blades and had an err7 moments from killing the Lich way back when it was still considered "hard" to do it with hench. I just never really felt the need to do it and other things are higher on the "fun scale" so they tend to get done.

Part of the reason she blew through the other campaigns so quick is that I had done everything so many times I knew which quests were fun, which had rewards I needed, and mostly I just knew what to do. At most I had one mission I hadn't bothered to do, but everything before that had been done so many times I knew the dialog without watching.

I rather suspect that GWEN will get the same treatment as Nightfall - I have WAY more gold than I did in Nightfall and I'm not spinning my wheels figuring out what the heroes can and can not do. Plus I find I enjoy my Dervish enough that the other characters tend to just be what I do when I'm kinda bored whereas before I didn't really have a favorite. It goes MUCH slower when you are bouncing around characters vs focusing mostly on one.

Productivity · Jul 25, 2007, 06:30 AM // 06:30

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

I'm sure I could do Cantha blindfolded these days.

TBH you would probably be better off doing it that way and saving yourself the horrificly ugly scenery.

Cebe · Jul 25, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58

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Originally Posted by Productivity

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

I'm sure I could do Cantha blindfolded these days.

TBH you would probably be better off doing it that way and saving yourself the horrificly ugly scenery.

Aww, The city is actually one of my more favourite parts of GW, across all 3 games... It's not that bad!

Government Flu · Jul 25, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

I try to enjoy as much of the game as possible the first time around, but after that I make sure to get through it as quickly as possible. I'm in the process of leveling up a Prophs monk and I went straight to post searing, got a run to Lion's Arch, got my heroes, and then jogged over to Sanctum Cay because I just don't have the patience to go through it again.

Especially since Prophs has such a slow pace and I've played through GW so often.

Despozblehero · Jul 25, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

After you do the campaign all the way through theres no reason to play it again. Its the same for all the characters... and if youre like me, you already did everything 1st time through. To the "dedicated" gamer the game may not seem like theres much content... and imho there isnt, I can beat the entire game with the same hero/hench setup on all 3 campaigns with any class fairly quickly. The content that is offered can be stretched if you just play and not look for the very best place to farm your title points (i pulled off the max LB track in 5 days but i went to the best place), but lets admit it most gamers want that little bit extra to show off, so they hurry, and in this game with content the way it is you can get through it pretty fast. So if the content is directed at a "casual" playerbase the "dedicated" playerbase will suffer (i.e. "nothing to do") just like if you direct all your content at the "dedicated" gamer the "casual" gamer suffers(i.e. cant catch up). To be honest though if youre a "casual" gamer youre in all likelyhood not going to be playing an RPG much less an MMORPG, I've never known a good RPG that didnt take Hundreds of hours to play completely. So to me, who personally enjoys a good rpg, GW lacks a lot, there's no rewarding enough reason to grind out most of those mindless skilless titles... and as far as PvP goes well Id explain it but its not worth it anymore, PvPs nothing fun to do anymore either.